[Implemented] Wild goose chase...

[Col.J.P.]

Greetings Gentlemen<br>This may very well be a shot in the dark, but is there any chance that the Vavoom engine may, one day, work with the full retail version of Strife?<br>This is currently the only Doom-engine based game with no port of any kind (opengl/D3D/3dfx)...I think that the source code was never released...Is this the reason?<br>I really like  Vavoom in Doom and Heretic, and I really miss Strife(never been able to finish it)...<br>I would be a blast if you guys could be able to improved this great old RPG!<br>Thank you very much for your attention.<br>Sincerely yours<br><br>                J.P. :'(

[quattj]

Ahhh, your guess is correct.  They say the reason they haven't been able to completely support is is because of the very fact that the source was never released.  I suppose if they do release the source code for Strife, 'twould be much much easier to get better compatibility with it.

[Col.J.P.]

I see...Thanx for the tip...I

[Janis Legzdinsh]

As I heared the Strfe source code has been lost  :-/

[Col.J.P.]

Lost?humm...That explains a lot of things!<br>Listen, Janis, is not possible to analize a graphic engine and work it from the within?How did you do it to make Vavoom work w/ the demo version?

[EvilOne]

Some things (like mobjinfos) can be stripped from the executable.<br><br>Dialogs and such have to be investigated by men. I don't really see any way to get them out of the game easily - it requires playing game a lot and reproducing all you saw...<br><br>Other ideas?

[Janis Legzdinsh]

Yes, the list of things, states, sprite names, animations, switches etc were stripped from executable.<br><br>Dialogs are stored in wad lumps and I know the format except the meaning of some data. Background pic name is created from sprite name. The only problem is commands.

[Col.J.P.]

Well...It seems to be a gigantic task then...Never mind.<br>I only asked because another guy made a D3D port for<br>Darkforces, a couple of years ago, without any source code(never been released either). It was quite impressive, but he never finished it though...<br>I already mailed to Rogue, but did

[Col.J.P.]

The major problems I encountered were exactly the lack of sound wads...Vavoom engine was

[EvilOne]

Janis, in my (full) version some dialogs are in the executable!

[Janis Legzdinsh]

Yes, those generic random answers are in the executable.

[EvilOne]

I might be wrong (don't have Strife installed so can't check it), but I remember some dialogs with the Oracle were there as well.

[Janis Legzdinsh]

I must say that I don't know what Oracle is since I have only the shareware version. I discovered Strife only about a year ago and I have no idea where I could get the full version  :(

[EvilOne]

I only have the pirated version with speech ripped off, still it's about 50mb... would be very hard to find the full [legal] one, indeed.

[quattj]

What meanest thou by "Speech ripped off"?<br>Consequently, you may all wish to check (Using Internet Exploror... Netscape locks up)<br>http://www.theunderdogs.org/ <br>and look for strife.<br>I just downloaded it, and I must say I think I have yet another game to be hooked on. ;D  As far as I can tell, the whole thing is there.  After running the setup file, this is what I have:<br><br>MODEM    NUM               67<br>SERSETUP EXE        33,986<br>SETUP    EXE         112,642<br>STRIFE1  EXE        752,691<br>MODEM    CFG                67<br>STRIFE   BAT                    9<br>IPXSETUP EXE        30,724<br>MODEM    STR           3,405<br>MULTI    TXT            16,913<br>README   TXT          10,408<br>VERSION  TXT                 24<br>STRIFE1  WAD    28,377,364<br>VOICES   WAD    27,319,149<br>SETUP    PIF                  967<br>STRIFE   CFG              1,083<br>STRFSAV0 SSG   <DIR>      <br>STRFSAV1 SSG   <DIR>      <br>STRFSAV2 SSG   <DIR>      <br>STRFSAV3 SSG   <DIR>      <br>STRFSAV4 SSG   <DIR>      <br>STRFSAV5 SSG   <DIR>      <br>STRFSAV6 SSG   <DIR>      <br><br>        16 file(s)     56,659,499 bytes<br><br>Hope it helps  :D<br>